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Inside the Hive

Is Facebook Becoming Marlboro?

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2018

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Being a tech company in Silicon Valley could be bad for your health, and the health of your company. Jason Fried, author of the book, "It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work," joins Nick to explain why, as the CEO of a successful startup, he stays as far away from the tech epicenter as possible. He explains why technology has become more of a hindrance than a solution at the office, and home, when A,I. will really start taking jobs, and how evil Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, and other social networks have become. Fried likens them to cigarette companies two decades ago, where the CEOs were fully aware that they were making something bad for our health and society, but did it anyway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Inside the Hive. I'm your host Nick Bilton and I have with me a not very special

0:08.8

guest. Are you typing John as you're talking to me? No, no, I'm just lowering the volume to shut you up. Okay, John

0:15.4

Kelly, you know that's like one of the golden rules of podcasting is you don't type when you're talking to someone.

0:20.6

John Kelly, you are soon to be out of a job at the White House, but before we get to all that,

0:26.4

I have a very special guest.

0:28.7

Jason Freed, who is an incredibly thoughtful CEO, who has a tech company not based in

0:36.4

Silicon Valley. He's written several incredible books and his latest book which

0:41.0

is really important for our relationship,

0:43.2

John, is it doesn't have to be crazy at work.

0:46.5

It's about how technology is making his work like 80, 90,

0:50.3

100 hour weeks and it's total bullshit.

0:52.3

We don't actually have to do that we can turn the

0:54.1

technology off and tell our editors to go away and leave us alone. But afterwards

0:59.9

we're going to talk about a few things in the news. What are those things we're going to talk about, John?

1:04.1

I think we'll probably talk about the latest Facebook revelations, how culpable they are, how much they're

1:11.5

owning up to it. And the big news that's dropping right now is of

1:14.2

course that Mattis is resigning effective in February it it seems as the

1:19.4

Trump as Trump prepares to go to Maralago for 16 days, all hell is breaking loose and the

1:25.0

shit is hitting the mother-fucking fan. That should be the title of our episode,

1:29.5

the shit is hitting the mother-fucking fan. And'll well we're going to get to what's going on

1:34.7

inside the White House because it seems like it's all just kind of falling apart in such

1:38.8

a sad happy way for the holidays and New Year.

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