Probably one of the biggest misconceptions is the fact that we should be cooking with omega-6 seed oils to lower cholesterol.

And in fact, it's true. We have literally proof from clinical studies from the highest level of evidence of meta-analyses that seed oils are not healthy, certainly compared to things like butter.

I don't actually blame most nutritionists and most people in the health space for sort of demonizing red meat.

I believe they're wrong.

What is the opinion you have that gets the most pushback?

It's got to be the salt.

Today I'm going to be talking to a leading cardiovascular researcher, Dr. James D. Nicolentoneo, and he's a scientist and a doctor of pharmacy at St. Luke's Mid-American Heart Institute.

And he currently serves as well as the associate editor at the British medical journals Open Heart and has

over 300 medical publications and decades of nutritional research and experience under his belt.

He's also a nine times bestselling author of books, including the salt fix and the immunity

fix. Dr. James, welcome the program today. Thanks so much for having me.

Well, I know we got connected through a mutual friend, Jordan Rubin, and I'd followed you on

Instagram and was so impressed with your work. You know, one of the things I've loved in watching

your posts and seeing you educate people is you're constantly busting these myths that have been

around for a really long time. And, you know, I was thinking about this when I first saw some of your

posts, it was about salt. And I started thinking back to my view as a child as salt. Now, I was

already very aligned with the way you were thinking, but growing up, I had a grandfather who had

heart disease. And so I remember

him constantly grumbling and complaining to my grandmother because she was always like hiding the salt

shaker and telling him he couldn't have salt. And poor guy, I was in his 80s and just so mad that he

couldn't, you know, everyone was telling him, including his doctor. The number one thing to fix your heart was a low sodium diet. And so I'm sure you can relate to a story

like that, but share with me a little bit about how common is that for you to still see that

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