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What Now? with Trevor Noah

Is Elon Musk the Ultimate Scam Artist? with Max Chafkin

What Now? with Trevor Noah

SiriusXM & Day Zero Productions

News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Author and journalist Max Chafkin, co-host of the podcast Elon, Inc., joins Trevor and Christiana to discuss one of today’s most fascinating and controversial figures: Elon Musk. The three talk about how Elon came to be the world’s richest person, whether he’s a brilliant entrepreneur, scam artist, or both, and whether he and the rest of the “Paypal Mafia” have helped the world or helped ruin it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think people sometimes take for granted that a scam artist doesn't necessarily fail, right?

0:06.3

You know, we're talking to one of my producers earlier and we're like 10 years ago today,

0:11.1

Elon Musk said, he was like, in 10 years, we will be on Mars.

0:14.4

He's like, I'll do it. We're going to be on Mars.

0:18.0

We're still here, baby. You know what I mean?

0:20.4

Yeah. Okay, Trump's a simple one what did trump say

0:22.5

never forget he said day one we're gonna bring down the price of eggs they're coming down folks

0:27.9

we're gonna bring it they've done nothing they've done nothing eggs have only gone up since he came in

0:33.0

power and now what's his story Biden left me with bad egg prices.

0:39.0

You said day one.

0:40.8

You said day one.

0:42.2

And you said you're going to do this thing.

0:44.1

Not only have you not done it, it's gotten worse.

0:46.4

The stock market is taking tanks like you've never seen.

0:55.1

This is What Now with Trevor Noah. Max Chafkin, welcome to the podcast.

1:05.8

Thank you for having me.

1:06.8

You know what I love about what you do is, I mean, you're deeply ingrained in the world of reporting around, you know, finance and business and tech and everything.

1:16.7

But I'm oftentimes amused and enthralled by people who seem to be in a place where they were well ahead of something before other people saw it.

1:28.6

And I wonder sometimes if it's luck or if it's them having like a premonition.

1:33.4

You host a podcast called Elon Inc.

1:36.7

And I remember the first time I saw the podcast, I was like, huh.

1:41.4

It's like, wow, is there going to be enough material?

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