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What Now? with Trevor Noah

Is Elon Musk the Ultimate Scam Artist? with Max Chafkin

What Now? with Trevor Noah

SiriusXM & Day Zero Productions

News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.64.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Author and journalist Max Chafkin, co-host of the podcast Elon, Inc., joins Trevor and Christiana to discuss one of today’s most fascinating and controversial figures: Elon Musk. The three talk about how Elon came to be the world’s richest person, whether he’s a brilliant entrepreneur, scam artist, or both, and whether he and the rest of the “Paypal Mafia” have helped the world or helped ruin it.

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0:00.0

I think people sometimes take for granted that a scam artist doesn't necessarily fail, right?

0:06.3

You know, we're talking to one of my producers earlier and we're like 10 years ago today,

0:11.1

Elon Musk said, he was like, in 10 years, we will be on Mars.

0:14.4

He's like, I'll do it. We're going to be on Mars.

0:18.0

We're still here, baby. You know what I mean?

0:20.4

Yeah. Okay, Trump's a simple one what did trump say

0:22.5

never forget he said day one we're gonna bring down the price of eggs they're coming down folks

0:27.9

we're gonna bring it they've done nothing they've done nothing eggs have only gone up since he came in

0:33.0

power and now what's his story Biden left me with bad egg prices.

0:39.0

You said day one.

0:40.8

You said day one.

0:42.2

And you said you're going to do this thing.

0:44.1

Not only have you not done it, it's gotten worse.

0:46.4

The stock market is taking tanks like you've never seen.

0:55.1

This is What Now with Trevor Noah. Max Chafkin, welcome to the podcast.

1:05.8

Thank you for having me.

1:06.8

You know what I love about what you do is, I mean, you're deeply ingrained in the world of reporting around, you know, finance and business and tech and everything.

1:16.7

But I'm oftentimes amused and enthralled by people who seem to be in a place where they were well ahead of something before other people saw it.

1:28.6

And I wonder sometimes if it's luck or if it's them having like a premonition.

1:33.4

You host a podcast called Elon Inc.

1:36.7

And I remember the first time I saw the podcast, I was like, huh.

1:41.4

It's like, wow, is there going to be enough material?

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