Is Elon Musk Really Stepping Back from DOGE?
Uncanny Valley | WIRED
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🗓️ 15 May 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
Elon Musk says he’s stepping back from his role with the so-called Department of Government Efficiency to turn his attention to his businesses—most urgently to Tesla, which has faced global sales slumps in recent months. Today on the show, we discuss how our understanding of DOGE has evolved over the past five months and what we think will happen when Musk scales back.
You can follow our hosts on Bluesky—Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Mike. |
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| 0:28.3 | Hi folks. |
| 0:29.6 | Co-hosts. |
| 0:30.4 | How's it going? |
| 0:32.0 | Ugh. |
| 0:34.5 | That good? |
| 0:36.2 | That was me, Katie. |
| 0:37.9 | That was me speaking. |
| 0:39.2 | No, it's going all right. |
| 0:39.9 | It's been like a stressful 90 minutes leading up to recording this podcast, but I'm okay. |
| 0:44.6 | Did you just fly through Newark? |
| 0:46.2 | No, actually. |
| 0:47.7 | I didn't, although I know that that is in your cards in the near future. |
| 0:51.9 | I actually reschedule the flight to avoid Newark. So I am now taking a red eye for no reason other than I don't want to fly into Newark Airport. Smart. Yeah, I'm jealous. Mike, I'm sending you all of the good wishes. Thank you. I hope to listen to this podcast on an airplane that took off on time and lands on time without incident on Thursday. |
| 1:13.0 | I hope you return next week able to tape another podcast because you didn't get stuck somewhere. |
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