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We Have Concerns

Is Dunning-Kruger Wrong?

We Have Concerns

Anthony Carboni/Jeff Cannata

News, Science, Society & Culture, Culture, Comedy, Internet, Pop, Games, Gadgets

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The Dunning-Kruger effect is the idea that the least skilled people overestimate their abilities more than anyone else. But a new study suggests that the mathematical approach used to show this effect may be incorrect. Jeff and Anthony discuss one of the most often cited psychological papers of all time and why it might not say what we all think it says.

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0:00.0

All I'd love to be is in a post-truck universe. This is we have concerns. Hi, Jeff Canada.

0:17.6

Hi, Anthony Carboni. Hello, concerned citizens. Anthony, you know, one of the most frequently

0:27.2

cited psychology experiments ever. Certainly most. Mouse utopia. Mouse utopia. No, we're not talking

0:36.6

about mouse utopia again. Every, every single episode you want me to talk about mouse utopia.

0:41.8

Oh, I love everybody loves mouse utopia. We're not doing mouse utopia. How many times I have to tell you?

0:48.2

We already did mouse utopia, but I'm telling you it's been so many years. We could revisit mouse utopia.

0:52.7

We could talk. What if we were just about mouse utopia? We just did a mouse utopia focused

0:58.1

podcast. Oh my gosh. Here's my new pitch for the show. Gimlet media slash Spotify studio style.

1:07.2

Deep dive into the mouse utopia. We interview the mice. We interview the descendants of the mice.

1:14.6

We interview the architects of the city. We put, we put like, we put like that, that, that serious

1:20.6

podcast music underneath it. So where it's like, where it's like, we thought we were doing the best

1:25.2

we could for the mice. But we were wrong. I'm Jeff Canada. And on this episode of mouse utopia,

1:40.7

we're going to go deep deep what makes mouse mouse. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take you

1:50.1

behind the veneer of mouse utopia into the places they don't want you to see. Maybe the mouse utopia

1:58.4

is a mouse distopia down. Coming up. Let me tell you something. You better head to page,

2:08.7

you better head to patreon.com slash we have concerns because audio based bits like that are not

2:12.6

easy to do over over a zoom call. The timing is all off. We're both trying to anticipate each other.

2:20.3

Anyway, what do you got to talk about mouse utopia today? Not about mouse utopia. One of the I would,

2:25.0

I would say probably more cited than mouse utopia. The psychology experiment. I certainly have a

2:30.1

sighted the most often. And it's one of my favorites because it seems to describe our world in

2:35.2

shocking detail is Dunning Krueger. The Dunning Krueger effect named, of course, after David Dunning

2:42.7

and Justin Krueger, professors of psychology at Cornell University, who published a paper,

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