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The Journal.

Is DEI Done?

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

Daily News, Business News, News

4.25.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

President Donald Trump has wasted no time in dismantling DEI programs in the federal government and pressuring private companies to do the same. As WSJ's Chip Cutter reports, Trump’s actions could reshape corporate America. Further Listening: - Corporate America's Embrace of Trump 2.0  - One Man’s Campaign Against DEI Further Reading: - How Trump’s Assault on DEI Will Ripple Across Corporate America  - Why Costco Isn’t Joining the Backlash Against DEI  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

For years, President Donald Trump has taken aim at diversity, equity, and inclusion, or DEI.

0:11.9

How do you define DEI? Go ahead. How do you define it?

0:15.8

Diversity, equity, inclusion?

0:17.3

Okay, yeah, go ahead.

0:18.5

And these are policies that were absolute nonsense. I will eliminate

0:22.3

all diversity, equity, and inclusion programs across the entire federal government.

0:28.0

DEI programs are meant to help underrepresented groups at work and in school. And not long ago,

0:34.5

DEI policies seem to be everywhere.

0:42.5

Lately, though, DEI looks more like an endangered species.

0:52.1

Donald Trump is on the hunt, and he is using every tool that he can to try to really, finally, kill DEI.

0:55.0

That's our colleague Chip Cutter. The Trump administration seems to be doing everything it can and its powers to enact sweeping changes in the ways that companies and organizations operate.

1:03.0

And it wants to just end what it sees as policies that the Trump administration feels have been discriminatory towards white people.

1:13.3

Which is why, as he starts his second term, Trump is rolling out a series of actions cracking

1:19.0

down on DEI, and corporations are watching. Many are already ditching their DEI programs.

1:27.8

The headline is the Trump administration

1:30.6

and how it's crackdown on DEI is rippling through companies.

1:36.0

This is what HR executives and CEOs are thinking about.

1:40.5

It's what lawyers are talking about.

1:42.5

For my world, writing about big companies, this is

1:45.9

the issue of the moment. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power.

1:54.7

I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Monday, January 27th.

2:03.6

Coming up on the show,

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