Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Vanness, and every week I sit down for a 40-minute conversation

with a brilliant expert told in all about something that makes me curious.

On today's episode, I'm joined by the activist, community organizer, and director of People's Action,

George Gale, where I ask him, what's at stake for World Voters this election, and is

deep-cannot seeing this season's New Hyaluronic acid?

Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Vanness, I'm so excited for our guest this week.

We have George Gale. He is the director of People's Action, one of the largest multi-racial

porn working class people's organizations in the country. He's also from Madura, Indiana,

so we're state neighbors, and also you have a new podcast, which is called To See Each Other.

And like I said earlier, you were the director of People's Action, but also a really fun thing is,

is that when we first interviewed Alicia Garza, I believe it was, I can't remember

was our first or second interview, but she mentioned her friend, George. And so I just loved it that,

I don't think she mentioned your last name there, but I loved the full world,

the full circle, the seventh. So welcome to the podcast, I'm so excited you're here.

Hey, thanks so much for having me, really, this is gonna be fun. So each episode of Getting Curious

is a question. And for our episode, what I wanted to talk about is, who is rural America,

and how are they changing? But I think that the deeper narrative that I'm speaking to is this one

that I experienced, which is I was born in a, you know, small, you know, blows 60,000 person, small

Midwestern town. I dreamt of getting out of it. My, you know, my whole coming up, I wanted to get

to a place where people work on to accept me and blah, blah, blah. And I, and you know, now I'm,

I live in Texas. I had lived in New York prior to that California. And, you know, obviously because

of the Electoral College, me being from Illinois, in luckily Chicago being there, like my electoral

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