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NO SUCH THING

Is dating an AI chatbot cheating?

NO SUCH THING

iHeartPodcasts and Kaleidoscope

Society & Culture, Comedy, News, News Commentary

4.6609 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Manny, Noah, and Devan revive a debate from almost a decade ago, albeit with modern framing: if you're in a relationship, and you're romancing an AI chatbot, should that be considered cheating? They chat to Tatum Hunter, tech reporter for the Washington Post, and couples therapist Jeff Guenther, better known as Therapy Jeff. And finally, they decide to try it for themselves, and go on a date with an AI chatbot.

Check out Tatum's work here, and scroll through Therapy Jeff's Instagram for wisdom and advice.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Annie. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And this is no such thing, the show where we settle our

0:05.2

dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research. On today's episode, we talk about the

0:11.1

phenomenon of dating AI chatbots and whether it should be considered cheating if you're in a

0:16.9

relationship. We'll talk to a reporter who helps us understand the trend. We'll talk to someone who's actually participating in the trend. We'll talk to a reporter who helps us understand the trend.

0:23.9

We'll talk to someone who's actually participating in the trend.

0:27.1

We'll talk to a couple's therapist to get their take.

0:31.5

And finally, the boys go on a date with an AI chatbot.

0:33.2

My place isn't far from here.

0:35.7

What do you feel like doing once we get there?

0:36.8

Let's do it.

0:42.4

There's no such thing.

0:44.1

No such thing.

0:47.1

No such thing.

0:50.2

No such thing.

0:53.2

No such thing. All right, boys, we are here to talk about this kind of growing phenomenon of people dating AI chatbots.

1:05.8

We're going to learn so much about these kind of uncharted territories of our digital lives.

1:12.4

But first, I was curious, do either of you use ChatGPT?

1:17.1

Occasionally.

1:18.2

What do you use it for?

1:20.5

I usually use it for stuff that's kind of hard to Google.

1:26.0

Well, you should be listening to our show.

1:29.0

Everything you need to know is in these 20, 21 episodes.

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