Is dairy good or bad for you?

ZOE Science & Nutrition

ZOE

Nutrition, Science, Health & Fitness, Education

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🗓️ 6 July 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Decades ago, there were reams of adverts instructing us to drink our milk so we don’t break our bones. But in the decades since, public opinion toward dairy is very different, and the scientific community has largely debunked these ideas. Many of the health-conscious among us choose to avoid it altogether. Our reasons range from a belief that dairy leads to inflammation, to acne, or even to an increased risk of heart attack due to high levels of saturated fat. But have we fallen into the same trap we often do, bouncing from one extreme to another? Could cutting out dairy mean we miss out on vital nutrients? Or could it hold the secret to a healthy gut microbiome? Today, Jonathan is joined by ZOE regulars and renowned experts, Dr. Sarah Berry and Prof. Tim Spector. In this episode, you’ll not only find out whether you should eat dairy or cut it out, but you’ll also hear two leading nutritional scientists try to reach an agreement on how to translate the latest research into actionable advice. And hopefully, they’ll still remain friends afterward. Download our FREE guide — Top 10 Tips to Live Healthier: https://zoe.com/freeguide Timecodes: 00:00 - Intro 00:13 - Jonathan’s Intro 01:38 - Quickfire round 02:45 - Biggest myth about dairy 04:15 - Does dairy cause inflammation? 10:38 - Bone fragilaty 16:03 - Cheese and Yogurt 16:59 - Full fat vs semi skinned 17:27 - Milk and cholesterol 21:03 - Fermented dairy 23:00 - dairy and microbes 26:03 - Saturated fats 26:51 - Cheese quality 31:15 - Summary 33:03 - Goodbyes 33:14 - Outro Follow ZOE on Instagram. Episode transcripts are available here. Is there a nutrition topic you’d like us to cover? Email us at podcast@joinzoe.com and we’ll do our best to cover it.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Zoe, Science and Nutrition, where world-leading scientists explain how their research can improve your health.
0:12.0	Drink your milk, kids. I don't want milk. Looks for babies.
0:16.0	Well, yeah, well, I happen to know that milk helps build strong bones. So, drink it, drink it, drink it, drink it, drink it.
0:24.0	If you're over a certain age, you might have heard a similar message to that 1991 ad. Drink your milk or your break a bone. Or maybe dairy is the best source of vitamins.
0:36.0	However, in succeeding decades, these notions were largely debunked, yet more myths circulated by well-funded commercial interests.
0:44.0	Public opinion towards dairy today is very different, and many of the health conscious among us choose to avoid it altogether.
0:52.0	Our reasons range from believing dairy needs to dietary inflammation, tachyne, or to an increased risk of heart attack due to its high level of saturated fat.
1:00.0	But could we have fallen into the same trap we so often do, bouncing from one extreme to another?
1:06.0	Could cutting out dairy mean we miss out on vital nutrients? Could dairy even hold the secret to a healthy gut microbiome?
1:14.0	We're joined today by two of the world's leading nutritional scientists to discuss what the latest science tells us.
1:21.0	Sarah Berry is an associate professor at King's College London and has run more than 30 human interventional studies.
1:27.0	My second guest, Tim Specter, is one of the world's top 100 most cited scientists and my Zoe co-founder.
1:36.0	Sarah and Tim, thank you for joining me today.
1:38.0	Pleasure.
1:40.0	Great to be here.
1:41.0	Why don't we start as always with a quick fire round of questions and you know the rules?
1:46.0	Yes, a no, or a short one sentence answer if necessary.
1:51.0	Sarah, starting with you, lots of people say that dairy causes inflammation in the body for most people.
1:58.0	Is this true?
1:59.0	No.
2:00.0	Alright, people are paying attention already.
2:02.0	Tim, should people drink milk during menopause to protect their bones?
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