We're in a deep hole when it comes to debt.

The only way out of our debt burden is through economic growth.

If we can recapture some of the rents that are charged, some of the inefficiencies in our financial system,

and bring them back to capital formation and allowing economic capital to be formed, businesses to be built, new enterprises

to lead.

That's our way out of our mountain of debt.

Former CFTC chairman, Chris John Carlo, also known as Crypto Dad, joins us now.

Hello.

It's great to be with you.

It's great to follow Chairman Stile.

He's a real champion.

He's done great work and his perspective on things.

He can clearly express it when he was talking about taxes and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, let's start there. Um, um, let's talk a little bit about the let's start there. Let's talk a little bit about the tax hearing. Talk to us about

some of your takeaways. What stood out to you? Well, you know, there's so much going on.

It's interesting how he so clearly sees the work that he did on clarity. That's done. Senate needs to follow that.

Now let's focus on tax. What I think all Americans should be impressed with is the purposefulness of

leadership right now in getting these core elements necessary for a healthy functioning crypto system,

let alone making America the crypto capital of the world.

It's such a contrast to the frustration and the hindrance and the stifling of this innovation

that took place previously.

It's so great to see our leadership moving smartly

through these issues in a very good fashion.

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