We are so glad that you're here because you're choosing to thrive after betrayal trauma or addiction.

Hi, I'm Ashland, the once betrayed.

I'm Kobe, the ones addicted. And I'm Brandonland the once betrayed. I'm Kobe the ones addicted and I'm Brandon the expert

now why am I an expert because I've treated betrayal trauma and addiction for over a decade I

want to invite you guys over to our premium site where you get in-depth content and access to us.

We answer questions there for you

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To find that side, go ahead and click details and scroll the

bottom you'll see the link to our patron site. Okay this is a review I got over on

Instagram from a friend and she says I absolutely love your podcast it has helped both my husband and myself in so many ways we listen every morning when we go walking at 5.30 a.m.

outside no matter how cold it is even if it's snowing. We have found that it is our time together to do and put in time for recovery.

It's great. I love it. They're moving, they're outside. Getting the blood flowing. The weather's been horrible here and they're getting out anyways. They're awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. All right. So we're talking about connection today, but we're talking about

unhealthy connection and connecting through chaos.

What we mean by that is how couples,

when they feel a lack of connection

in their relationship, they find ways to connect anyways. So they create chaos and in that chaos they fill some element of connection and it bonds them together

But it's the it's the unhealthiness that's bonding them together.

But they will take whatever they can get.

And so they'll continue to connect in that chaos and it creates cycles in the relationship.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about us Ashley.

Pretty sure. It creates cycles in the relationship with outcomes that are not

awesome. Yep, that's us.

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