Just to follow real quick here, Picking Stone, well set here, I got to adapting

musician's mindset to my work environment a little more.

I would just say that yes, and part of the musician's mindset, certainly not exclusive

to musicians, but if we think about the artistic mindset, I think it's definitely like a growth

mindset, but even more, it's like it's a lifting everybody up. What do they call it, the rising

tide lifts all boats. It's the not a zero-sum game. It's not like everybody up. What do they call it? The rising tide lifts all boats.

It's not a zero-sum game.

It's not like you're slicing up the pie.

What's in it for me?

I got to get my part of the pie because it's going to run out.

The musician's mentality is really about like helping others, serving others,

helping other people to get better to, knowing that there's

room for everybody.

And it's hard because, like, we look at the world of music, playing jazz as being a very

competitive feel.

And it is because there's so many people that want to do it in comparison to the number of

jobs, gigs, teaching gigs, venues, especially obviously right now but just in general it's very competitive so

it's hard to get on this mindset where you're not like it's me against every other piano player

but once you make that turn um it's it's a really exciting thing when you realize like we're all

in this together we can all help and i just just have to say, like spending, you know,

many of my formative years, I mean, from age 20 through 35, basically in New Orleans, living

in New Orleans helped me so much because New Orleans is a very unique place because the

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