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Sinica Podcast

Is coercive environmentalism the answer?

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Sinica, which was taped live at the fourth annual NEXTChina Conference on November 11, Kaiser and Jeremy chat with Yifei Li and Judith Shapiro, co-authors of a new book called China Goes Green: Coercive Environmentalism for a Troubled Planet. Li, an assistant professor of environmental studies at NYU Shanghai, and Shapiro, the chair of the environmental politics program at American University, tackle the question of whether a state-led authoritarian approach is needed to address the crisis of global warming and other looming ecological catastrophes. And while their focus is on the environment, the book interrogates more broadly the whole technocratic authoritarian approach to governance, with relevance to pandemic response, population policy, and much more.

3:43: State-led environmentalism in China 

16:18: Mechanisms of state power and enforcement on the environment

23:12: Environmentalism and China’s illiberal turn

31:06: China’s space ambitions and technocratic leadership

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1:08.4

I am Kaiser Guo coming to you from Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

1:12.1

Joining me from Nashville, Tennessee, is the man who convinced the Trump legal team to hold their

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Saturday press conference at four-season sort of landscaping, Mr. Jeremy Goldcorn. Jeremy,

1:21.1

well played, sir, well played. And please, greet the people, won't you?

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Law and order. Law and order.

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Yes, lawn and order.

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Absolutely.

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I thought about changing my backdrop that so many other people have.

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Anyway, Jeremy, no thanks to either of our states, Tennessee or North Carolina.

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Joe Biden has won the White House.

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The U.S. will rejoin the Paris Agreement and may embrace some version of a Green New Deal. Global cooperation on limiting carbon emissions may finally become the priority for the U.S. that it should

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