My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.

I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as

former Christians and non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions

about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given bad answers to those good questions, often by people with

pure intentions.

I want to say that you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very

seriously.

And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across

the Christian spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening.

Hey, Tim, thanks for joining me here today. Dan, thanks for joining me here today.

This is a joint feed episode of the new evangelicals and you have permission podcasts.

Here we are.

We met in person last year.

We had already kind of met online, but we met in person last year at the

theology beer camp, and we will both be in person again this year at Theology Beer Camp

coming up in October. And that's kind of why we're talking, but really we're talking because

there's a really kind of interesting conversation in our larger sort of deconstructionish community

over the last couple months, which I will set up in a second. But let's each say just like a

couple words about our shows, because this is going to go on both feeds. Some people don't know me.

Some people don't know you. So for you have permission listeners, tell us a little bit about the

New Evangelicals podcast. Yeah. My name is Tim. I a little bit about the new evangelicals podcast.

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