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Every institution you can imagine, Americans trust in those institutions has just totally plummeted.

We're in a place when, you know, a guru comes along making a pitch that actually everyone else is wrong about the world. we have fewer tools at our disposal to kind of test that story to, you know, decide if it's really what we should do.

Hey, come on in.

Good to see you.

Welcome to Alive.

All right, here's a question for you.

Would you say that you have charisma?

The Riz. Hmm.

Well, I certainly think you do.

I've never considered myself a charisma guy, personally. I'm more of a nervous energy, bald, with tea kind of guy. There's tea. You want tea?

But charisma is something I've been thinking a lot about lately. You know, what it is, what it does to us because when we say that someone has it we almost

always mean that as a compliment right we say ooh she's so magnetic or he's so charismatic

but it's not always that simple because yeah i, George Clooney's got a lot of charisma, but technically so did Charles Manson.

It's not always a good thing.

And we live in the golden age of charisma right now because everyone is an influencer.

And if you've got an Instagram account then

boom you've got a platform from which to persuade people with the influence of your

Riz and that influence is not always tied to the social good or to truth it's really just

all about persuasion. And when a particularly

charismatic person seems to really believe the things they are saying, we tend to believe

it too.

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