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KCRW's Left, Right & Center

Is ‘cancel culture’ cancelled?

KCRW's Left, Right & Center

KCRW

352865, News

4.24.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

An inquiry from the Wall Street Journal into a social media account linked to a Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) staffer led to the employee’s resignation from the Elon Musk-led agency. Following an impromptu Twitter poll from Musk and support from Vice President JD Vance, the employee was welcomed back into DOGE. Is the re-hiring a blow against “cancel culture,” or is an empowered right playing a similar game but with new rules?

On the first day of Donald Trump’s second term, he withdrew the United States from the Paris Climate Accord via executive order. He made a similar move in 2017, which drew international backlash, largely on moral grounds. This time around, people worldwide expected the move and gave a more subdued response. Will a revised argument from climate activists break through to conservative leadership in the States?

The president also issued executive orders that ended the printing of pennies and federal efforts to embrace paper straws. Though popular, are these actions timely? 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's time again for left, right, and center. I'm David Green with our regular crew, Moalathie, and Sarah Isgir. You know, the three of us are in touch each week planning out our show or talking about a new restaurant or talking about karaoke, but mostly planning out the show. And Sarah, you kind of emerged this week as the language police.

0:24.2

And I don't mean that in the way we often talk about language police these days at all,

0:27.7

but you are stressing that definitions of phrases matter in our politics.

0:34.5

Yeah, or at least that we should agree on definitions of controversial phrases

0:39.0

before we engage in conversations where it turns out we're not talking about the same thing.

0:44.3

So like the first part of a conversation should be, oh, what does this term mean to you?

0:49.0

What does it mean to me? Can we agree on what the term means before we then throw around the term for like a political conversation?

0:57.6

And I think that counts for, you know, everything, a two-state solution, cancel culture, as we were talking about and everything in between.

1:06.8

Right. Well, and Mo, you kind of emerged in a different way as policing hypocrisy in our politics, which is another thing that I think is really important for us to think about.

1:17.2

Yeah. I mean, you know, the topic that we've been talking about this week, as Sarah mentioned, was cancel culture.

1:24.6

Right.

1:25.2

And how, you know, the right feels that it is finally sort of pushing back on the

1:33.3

notion of cancel culture. Whereas I would argue they've just tipped the balance of the scales in their

1:40.9

favor and they're engaging it. And that's when Sarah started coming at me hard

1:45.9

and hot saying, no, what they're doing is not cancel culture. It's something else. And this whole

1:52.5

notion of defining the thing, yeah, I agree, is important. But the end result is also important.

1:59.3

And that's where I see massive hypocrisy by team

2:03.9

Trump right now. Yeah, let's not put the card before the horse. I want to sort of set the stage here,

2:10.3

as it were, because we have a recent example of this cancel culture, pushing back on cancel culture,

2:16.8

whatever we're going to end up calling it when we finish this discussion.

2:20.0

But there's this 25-year-old named Marco Ales, who has been working for Elon Musk at Doge.

2:28.8

You may have heard of it.

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