Is Britain F*cked - Or Can This Economist Fix It?
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 20 April 2023
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
Britain is in a right old mess - but economist Daniel Chandler, author of new book FREE AND EQUAL, offers a range of practical solutions that could turn it all around.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, please like and subscribe. I am delighted to be joined by the brilliant Daniel |
| 0:04.0 | Tandler who has written a fantastic book which you are all going to go in order called |
| 0:07.2 | Three Andy Cool, what would a fair society look like? |
| 0:10.7 | We're straws on the philosophy of John Rawls. We're going to explain who that is and why that |
| 0:14.9 | matters and why philosophy matters. We're also going to create a fair society from scratch |
| 0:20.0 | in the space of 15 to 20 minutes, so no pressure Daniel. |
| 0:24.3 | Daniel firstly, just kick off philosophy. A lot of people might think, |
| 0:27.7 | look, I've got everyday issues, I've got to pay my bills, housing crisis, |
| 0:32.6 | lack of my pays falling, the world's falling apart, philosophy's a little too abstract. |
| 0:38.4 | Why does it matter and who the hell is John Rawls anyway? |
| 0:42.0 | Okay, great question as well. So look, I wrote the book because I was also worrying about all |
| 0:46.9 | the kinds of problems that you're pointing to and I think it's easy to point to the problems |
| 0:51.4 | that we face today, whether that is the cultural or lack of trust in democracy, poverty and |
| 0:56.8 | equality that this goes on. But I think what is missing from our public debate and what's really |
| 1:03.1 | surprisingly hard to find is a coherent picture of what a better fair society would actually look |
| 1:09.1 | like. I think it feels particularly at the moment like we're just being buffeted from one crisis |
| 1:14.3 | to another without a longer term sense of direction. I think that's true across the political spectrum |
| 1:21.2 | that we lack these ideas that we need to think about where we want to go next, but I think it |
| 1:25.6 | particularly affects progressives and that matters because we're in a moment where the ideas of |
| 1:31.8 | facture and Reagan and neoliberalism effectively that have dominated since the 1980s really are |
| 1:38.8 | falling apart. There's a huge appetite for something different and yet I think progressives |
| 1:43.8 | really have struggled to articulate a really systematic alternative that could take neoliberalism's |
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