Is Biden in the Midst of a World Historic Crime Against Humanity?
Deconstructed
The Intercept
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🗓️ 15 January 2022
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
The normally reserved International Committee of the Red Cross recently made a surprisingly direct statement about the unfolding economic and humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan. They said, “Can the international community” — meaning the U.S. — “hold 39 million people hostage to the fact that they do not want to recognise the authorities that are now in place in Kabul and in Afghanistan?”
Masood Shnizai is a journalist based in Kabul, Afghanistan. He joins Ryan Grim to discuss the <a href="https://theintercept.com/2022/01/09/afghanistan-sanctions-human-rights-hawks/">devastating effects</a> of the <a href="https://theintercept.com/2021/12/28/afghanistan-economy-collapse-us-sanctions/">ongoing U.S. sanctions</a>, and why the calls for help seem to be falling on deaf ears in the Biden administration.
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| 0:00.0 | Typically on this show, I like to offer up a decent amount of context before jumping into |
| 0:10.2 | an interview, but today I want to save that for afterwards because I don't want to |
| 0:13.6 | get in the way of Misoogs and Azay or Guests today. |
| 0:16.8 | He's a journalist and fixer at Afghanistan and was courageous enough to share with us |
| 0:21.2 | what life has been like under Taliban rule coupled with debilitating US sanctions. |
| 0:26.5 | After his interview, I'll offer a little more global background. |
| 0:29.7 | Misoogs, Sujshnazai, welcome to Deconstructed. |
| 0:32.4 | Thank you for being here. |
| 0:34.4 | Thank you, Ryan. |
| 0:35.4 | It's good to be here. |
| 0:37.0 | And so this past summer, here in the United States, Afghanistan was the only thing anybody |
| 0:45.5 | wanted to talk about on the news for about a week or two. |
| 0:50.0 | And after that week or two ended, the situation in Afghanistan essentially has faded entirely |
| 0:56.7 | from view here in the United States. |
| 1:00.5 | Tell us a little bit about how this summer was for you. |
| 1:06.5 | Where were you when the Taliban finally took over Kabul? |
| 1:11.6 | Well, when the Taliban took over Kabul, I was in Iraq and Iraq fell to the Taliban before |
| 1:19.8 | Kabul. |
| 1:20.8 | The Taliban captured Afghanistan's third biggest city, Iraq, with reports they've taken |
| 1:25.6 | Kandahat too. |
| 1:27.2 | So I was in Iraq and on a Thursday, Iraq fell to the Taliban and then on a Sunday, two |
| 1:34.6 | days later, three days later, Kabul fell to the Taliban. |
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