One of the things that the Australian Guffer did recently was that it issued some 3,000 tourist visas, would you believe, to people from the terrorist-controlled war zone in Gaza.

Now, I'm sure there are many decent people in Gaza, and we recently saw some very brave gas people standing up against

the Amar terrorists that control the on-cliffe but nevertheless you've got to assure

that if you just give 3,000 pieces to people from Gaza you will be importing trouble.

You will be bringing into your country people who are unlikely ever to go back and who don't

necessarily share your values.

So this is where I think there's been a degree of negligence from a lot of Western governments

in recent times.

I accept that in a sense it's our virtues that have brought on this problem

because we want to be decent, we want to be fair-minded, we want to think the best of people,

they're all good things. But in the end, if you do somehow fracture your society or make your society less cohesive, well, you're not

doing yourselves any favors.

All right, former Australian Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, it's good to see you.

We were just commiserating about long trips to get here, but 30 hours for you, you're awake.

You're awake. What level am I getting at right now?

Look, you're probably getting me out about nine out of ten.

What, nine out of ten? That's not bad.

At least, it's not as bad as it used to be.

The first modern Australians came to Sydney Cove from Britain in 1788, and it took them nine months.

So, and something.

So 30 hours, not so bad.

And something got two or three percent of them died on the journey. So let's

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