Is anyone taking Trump's peace plans seriously?
The Politics Show
The New Statesman
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🗓️ 1 October 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Donald Trump says he has a plan to end the war in Gaza and bring eternal peace to the Middle East.
Will Lloyd is joined by Katie Stallard to discuss how Trump is pursuing diplomacy in his second term.
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| 0:00.0 | The New Statesman |
| 0:02.0 | Donald Trump says he has a plan to end the war in Gaza and bring eternal peace to the Middle East. |
| 0:13.0 | The President's 20-point proposal outlines that if the fighting ends, Gaza will be placed under the control of a transitional government headed by Trump himself |
| 0:21.9 | and among others, our old friend, Tony Blair. Visiting the White House on Monday, Israeli Prime Minister |
| 0:27.3 | Benjamin Netanyahu accepted the plan. At the time of our recording, Hamas is yet to issue |
| 0:31.9 | an official response. How is Trump pursuing diplomacy in his second term? |
| 0:42.2 | How well are his attempts to end wars in Israel and Ukraine going? |
| 0:45.9 | I'm Will Lloyd and this is the New Statesman podcast. |
| 0:49.5 | Joining me today from Washington is Katie Stallard. |
| 0:50.0 | Hello. |
| 0:51.6 | Hello, good to be with you. |
| 0:58.0 | So let's start with what happened on Monday and this plan for Gaza. How much do we actually know about this plan? How much was announced on Monday? What would it involve? |
| 1:04.3 | So we got a fair amount of detail. There are 20 points and they set out both an immediate timeline for an end to the fighting. |
| 1:15.8 | So I think if we go through it chronologically, most importantly would be an immediate halt to the fighting. |
| 1:23.5 | Within 72 hours, then a return of all the Israeli hostages, both those who are still alive |
| 1:31.9 | and in captivity and the bodies of those who have died. In exchange, close to 2,000 Palestinian prisoners |
| 1:40.2 | would then be released and there would be a huge amount of aid immediately entering Gaza. |
| 1:47.8 | You would also then start to see some of the basic infrastructure there restored, |
| 1:55.9 | so talking about water, electricity, sewage facilities. |
| 2:00.1 | So there would be urgent immediate efforts to improve the |
| 2:04.2 | humanitarian situation in Gaza. So this sort of immediate plan is pretty clear. What happens beyond |
| 2:13.4 | that is a little more vague and I think is where this is perhaps lightly to falter. |
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