Pastor Mark here, a special, special series of conversations with my wife Grace.

We've been married faithfully 31 years and in a series right now, Cleave on family systems and how to architect

your immediate and extended family to bless your marriage and children for

generations. It's basically what to do and what not to do. It's basically what to do and what not to do.

In addition to the sermons, you can find at real faith.com

slash cleave, I've got a special four-part series with my wife Grace where we talk about this very practically

and share from our own marriage and experience.

And so I really hope you enjoy it and again you can find all the content including the workbook along with the sermons

Real Faith.com slash cleave

C-L-E-A-V-E.

Ready go?

Sure.

Okay.

Mark and Grace Driskell here, welcome back to the Real Marriage Podcast.

We're doing a short series on Leave and Cleave and if you go to real faith.com there's also full sermons and a full work buck.

It's a 21 day journey to help couples figure out how to have a healthy family system and have that

conversation with themselves and their extended family.

And so the concept of leaving Cleave comes from Genesis 224 in the King James version.

And I'm going to, we're going to talk about in meshment today.

So I'm going to sketch it out.

I'm a verbal processor and visual. And then I want to talk to you about enmeshments.

So here's kind of how I see it.

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