The New Statesman.

Angela Rainer has called Shabana Mahmood's immigration plans on British.

Is this the beginning of the dilution of these reforms?

And even of a leadership campaign.

This is Daily Politics from The New Statesman.

I'm Anusha Kellyan and I'm joined by our political editor Alva Ray.

Hi, Alva. Hello. So you were there, I think, when Angela Raina was making these comments. Oh, no. I had a cold. I had great plans to go. Okay. All right. Well, sorry to defame you like that on the podcast. But she was. Would have been there. And I got a readout from it, a transcript and live updates.

So it was like I was in the room.

And I feel like we have all been to many events in Walkers of Whitehall.

Yeah. There's no need to overdo it.

No need.

Yeah, really, really no need.

I mean, for non-London or non-Westminster listeners,

who might be inclined to glamourise one of these pubs opposite Dining Street on Whitehall,

they really shouldn't.

The basement of Walkers in Whitehall is this funny, no disrespect to the lovely pub,

but like it's this funny juxtaposition of playing host to some really big moments in Westminster.

Like it's also where Morgan McSweeney had his leaving drinks last week or the week before,

the night before our own George Eaton had his.

And, you know, they have Walkers of Whitehall plays hosts to all of these sort of important moments, but it is a sweaty basement, slightly smelly, not a place that people need to be

visiting the next time they're in London.

Yeah, okay. And she was there for the mainstream, which is this, we've talked about it as being

...