Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Stephen. Alva's on holiday. On today's New Statesman podcast,

we discuss Andy Burnham, and you ask us who understands Englishness the best.

Keir Starmer, Boris Johnson, or Gareth Stalfsgate.

Stephen, welcome back from your holiday. Thank you.

Did you have a nice time? I had a lovely time. We went for lots of walks.

I was actually went to the sea. I was near the sea. I'm not really a water person,

but it was nice to look at the North Sea rather than actually interact with it.

Keir went to Guantanjian, which is always very nice. Actually, the one thing I didn't like,

and the thing I've discovered about myself this year, is that my brain on a bio-lection wakes me

up at 4 a.m. regardless of the following things. One, whether or not the bio-lection count is due

not to happen, not just by happening at 5, part of the pool. If I'm on holiday last week, or most

maddeningly of all, if I have gone to bed after the result, just show them an answer.

I feel like we're covering a bio-lection. The most wonderful dream, the liberal demo,

oh, wait, no, that actually didn't happen. But I kind of woke up at 4 a.m. in this kind of book,

and I kind of lay there thinking, okay, I might as well just get up and find out if I'm going to

spend a large chunk of Friday doing what I always associate as the kind of like,

well, I mean, obviously I wasn't abroad. I was in Whitby, but during my honeymoon, the Labour Party,

well, there was something, I still don't really know quite the ins and outs of the various

rouse in the Labour Party and happened in November 2015, but there were a lot. And I obviously had

my phone off. Then on the airport lounge, the way, you know, arriving back in Heathrow,

it kind of turning on kind of sort of weird, de-contextified stuff about like shoot to kill,

and maybe something to do with Ken Livingston. And it's going to be like that. And then of course,

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