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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrual, Foreign Policy's editor-in-chief. This is FP Live.

Welcome to the show.

A recent survey of U.S. foreign policy reveals a startling change.

For the first time, in nearly five decades, a majority of Republicans say the United States

should stay out of world affairs rather than play an active role in it.

The Chicago Council survey conducted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs found that the shift was led primarily by so-called Trump Republicans,

the 47% of Republicans who hold a very favorable view of Donald Trump.

Now, debates about America's role in the world are hardly new, nor is the argument that Washington

would be better off focusing on domestic issues. What seems new, however, is the concentration of people who hold those views

not only in one party, but specifically within the pro-Trump wing of the GOP. I wanted to explore

this week how that change has taken place, and with that, what impact it's already had and will have

on U.S. foreign policy? Well, my guest this week is Evo Dahlder. He's the CEO of the Chicago

Council on Global Affairs, which conducted the survey. He's also a former U.S. ambassador to NATO.

So we also spent some time looking at the state of the war

in Ukraine. Evo's really one of the best analysts to read and listen to on this topic. As always,

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