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Is Alcohol Good For You, Or Is Alcohol A POISON? (You'll Be Surprised At The Results!): Drinker Ben Greenfield Debates Non-Drinker James Swanwick.

Ben Greenfield Life

Ben Greenfield

Education, Fitness, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In this debate podcast featuring return guest James Swanwick (you can check out our first show together here), you'll get to hear an honest, science-backed exploration of alcohol’s true impact on your body, brain, and quality of life—plus what it really takes to build a vibrant, alcohol-free lifestyle.

James Swanwick is an Australian-American entrepreneur who helps high performers and casual drinkers reduce or quit alcohol without feeling deprived. He is a former SportsCenter anchor on ESPN and the creator and founder of Project 90, a neuroscience-based process scientifically proven to reduce drinking by 98%. James specifically supports high achievers, including entrepreneurs, executives, physicians, attorneys, and professional athletes. He’s also an investor, speaker, and author of the book, CLEAR: The Only Neuroscience-Based Approach for High Achievers to Finally Break Free From Alcohol Without Willpower, Rehab or AA.

I push back on some of James’ views, especially around moderation. We get into the nuances of drinking, discussing hormesis, genetics, culture, and whether small amounts of alcohol can play a role in a well-rounded, intentional lifestyle. It’s a respectful, spirited conversation that doesn’t aim to tell you what to do—but gives you the clarity and information to make the best decision for your own health and goals.

Whether you’re sober-curious, optimizing your performance, or just reevaluating your habits, this episode offers practical tools, real-world insight, and a fresh perspective on one of the most normalized substances in our culture.

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/alcoholpod

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Transcript

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0:00.0

My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of the Boundless Life podcast, there are 400 million

0:06.3

people in the world who are considered to have an alcohol use disorder, but yet there's only

0:10.7

80 million people in the world who have a drug use disorder that's separate from alcohol.

0:15.6

So that's five times as many people experience an alcohol use disorder than any other drug.

0:21.1

In March 2020, when the pandemic started, in the subsequent years, we saw a 23% increase

0:27.0

in alcohol-related deaths.

0:29.1

And 7,000 people die a day, they estimate from alcohol-related illnesses.

0:35.4

I always say that alcohol can be death by a thousand cuts. Over a few days,

0:41.1

weeks, months, even a year or so, we don't really notice that cumulative effect. But then over

0:45.8

many years and decades, it can creep up on you and cause a lot of damage to your family,

0:51.2

to yourself, and to society as a whole. Welcome to the Boundless Life with me, your host, Ben Greenfield.

0:58.3

I'm a personal trainer, exercise physiologist, and nutritionist,

1:01.6

and I'm passionate about helping you discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness, longevity, and beyond.

1:16.3

You've probably heard of quantum before.

1:18.3

You've probably heard of quantum energy now.

1:19.8

It's the energy that exists and everything.

1:22.3

Every unit of matter contains quantum energy.

1:26.2

Every person constantly interacts with quantum energy fields.

1:33.2

These quantum energy fields can be disrupted by the electromagnetic polluted soup that we live in, toxicity, stress.

1:38.0

We're bombarded by things that mess up our frequencies, so to speak.

1:40.6

Enter quantum upgrade.

1:41.8

Quantum upgrade.

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