Is AI officially a national security threat?
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
On April 7, artificial intelligence (AI) company Anthropic announced that it would not release its newest AI model, called Claude Mythos Preview, to the general public, citing potential security risks. Instead, Anthropic released the model to a select group of about 50 companies that will test its capabilities in a defensive security initiative known as Project Glasswing.
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| 0:00.0 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 0:08.4 | Tangle. |
| 0:09.4 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. |
| 0:28.0 | I'm your host, Isaac Saul. Today is Thursday, April 16th, and we are covering the Claude Mythos story. |
| 0:36.6 | There's so much here, but big, big, big developments in the AI space. |
| 0:41.2 | Allegedly, I'm going to share some of my perspective here, which includes some skepticism, |
| 0:46.1 | but I don't want to give a game away too early. |
| 0:48.9 | Before we jump in everything, I do want to give you a quick heads up on what we're doing tomorrow. |
| 0:53.3 | Something a little different. |
| 0:54.9 | We have two Tangle editors, Ari Weitzman and Lindsay Canuth, who are on the opposite side of an issue about data centers. |
| 1:03.8 | And this actually relates a little bit to what we're covering today in the AI space. |
| 1:07.8 | The two of them see this really differently. |
| 1:10.2 | They've been hashing it out on Slack and in, |
| 1:14.0 | you know, various editing arguments that we've been having. And so finally we said, what if you |
| 1:18.0 | guys co-wrote a piece? You just debated each other in front of our audience. And they agree. |
| 1:24.0 | So tomorrow, we're going to try a format where one of them, Ari, is going to argue for |
| 1:29.1 | the building of more data centers while the other Lindsay is going to argue against them. |
| 1:33.7 | We're going to share them all in one newsletter and podcasts. And I think it's going to be really fun. |
| 1:37.6 | We're excited to test this format out. We're curious what our audience thinks. If you guys really |
| 1:41.9 | like it, maybe it's something we can do more feature in the newsletter more regularly. It's going to be really interesting. I hope you guys |
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