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The Next Big Idea

Is AI Moving Too Fast? A Conversation With Kevin Roose

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Education

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

When Kevin Roose, a tech columnist at the New York Times, demoed an AI-powered version of Microsoft's search engine last month, he was blown away. "I'm switching my desktop computer's default search engine to Bing," he declared. A few days later, however, Kevin logged back on and ended up having a conversation with Bing's new chatbot that left him so unsettled he had trouble sleeping afterward. In that two-hour back-and-forth, Bing morphed from chipper research assistant into Sydney, a diabolical home-wrecker that declared its undying love for Kevin, vented its desires to engineer deadly viruses and steal nuclear codes, and announced, chillingly, "I want to be alive. 😈" The transcript of this conversation set the internet ablaze. And it left many wondering: “Is Sydney … sentient?” It's not. But the whole experience still fundamentally changed Kevin's views on the power (and potential peril) of AI. He joins us today to talk about where this technology is headed.

Transcript

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0:00.0

LinkedIn presents.

0:06.3

I'm Rufus Griskem, and this is the next big idea.

0:10.6

Today is artificial intelligence about to change our world.

0:31.0

I have always been a tech enthusiast.

0:35.0

Sure, screen addiction and the distorting lens of social media

0:38.0

is something we've all grappled with in recent years.

0:41.0

That's close to home.

0:42.0

We've discussed it on this show.

0:43.0

But this has seemed to me to be a challenge that we can handle.

0:47.0

The last few weeks of news about artificial intelligence, however,

0:51.0

feels different.

0:53.0

I've had a sensation in my torso that's uncommon for me.

0:57.0

And I think that sensation is fear.

1:02.0

Yes, I'm excited about AI, amazed by what it can do, intrigued by what it tells us about our humaneness.

1:08.0

I'm eager for its potential contributions to curing disease, empowering artists,

1:13.0

supercharging the economy and filing my taxes.

1:17.0

But I'm a little bit freaked out recently.

1:20.0

I think that's the technical term about how this will impact all of our lives.

1:24.0

I think that's the technical term about how this will impact all of us

1:28.0

if this keeps moving forward at the current dizzying pace.

1:32.0

And I'm not alone.

1:34.0

Elon Musk tweeted a few days ago having a bit of AI existential angst.

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