Is AI an Existential Threat? A Debate. (Robert Wright, Roko Mijic, and Alexander Campbell)

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🗓️ 18 April 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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0:00 How Roko and Alex wound up debating on the Nonzero Podcast5:05 Could near-term AI disruption be worse than Covid?13:18 Is AI an existential threat? 25:31 How the sci-fi apocalypse scenario might unfold36:42 How is a renegade AI like a man wearing a condom?47:06 Why would an AI want to kill us?55:47 How the Cold War makes AI more dangerous1:09:49 Roko and Alex make final statements before Overtime

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True), Roko Mijic (Heretical Update), and Alexander Campbell (Rose AI). Recorded April 11, 2023.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:31.6	Hello, Rocco and Alex. How are you doing?
0:37.5	Greatings. Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright. Hello, Rocco and Alex. How are you doing? Greetings.
0:39.1	Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright, a publisher of the Non-Zero Newsletter.
0:43.3	This is the Non-Zero podcast.
0:46.6	And you are Rocco Miich and Alexander Campbell.
0:52.1	And we're going to have kind of a debate slash discussion about the perils posed by
0:59.1	AI, whether or not they're big and whether they may even qualify as existential.
1:07.2	And the way I actually stumbled into this debate is on Twitter, I guess.
1:12.0	I kind of found myself alerted to an incipient conversation you two were having.
1:17.5	I guess somebody was saying, well, Alex, you should debate Rocco.
1:20.1	And then somebody suggested it happened on my podcast.
1:24.4	So that's what's happening.
1:26.9	Let me say that this is not going to be a classic debate where I, you know, get five minutes to one, five minutes the other.
1:32.3	I have my views. I will share them.
1:34.3	This is an informal conversation, but we certainly do have two, I think, clearly contrasting views that we can juxtapose.
1:42.3	Rocco, as you will discover, is considerably more alarmed than Alex is, and somewhat more alarmed
1:49.2	than me.
1:49.6	I think I'm kind of in the middle, and I honestly don't know which one of you I'm closer to.
1:54.9	First, a little bit about both of you.
1:58.2	Rocco, I gather you're a member of the rationalist community.
2:03.8	Yes, that's correct.
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