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Big Technology Podcast

Is AI Actually Saving The Stock Market? — With Tom Lee

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

Technology, Religion & Spirituality, Business News, Business, Religion, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Politics, News Commentary, Government, Investing, Tech News, Social Sciences, News

4.6395 Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Tom Lee is the chief investment officer at Fundstrat Capital and head of research at FSInsight. He joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss whether generative AI wave is actually holding up the stock market and what would happen if it stalled or fell apart. We discuss what an AI 'Black Swan' event would look like, whether the bubble would pop, and what happens if AI gets too good. Tune in for the second half where we discuss how Lee predicts stock market movements, why the market is holding up well, and whether bitcoin has room to grow. For complimentary access to Tom's daily insights, market alerts, live webinars, and stock lists, you can visit ⁠⁠fundstrat.com/tom⁠⁠ --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Is AI really holding up the stock market? And what happens if it fails or stalls? Let's talk about it

0:06.2

with legendary strategist, Tom Lee, the chief investment officer at Fundstract Capital, who's here

0:12.1

with us in studio today. Tom, great to see you. Thanks for coming down. Great to see it, Alex.

0:16.8

So I want to start just by testing this truism that people have been saying about AI and the stock market for a long time, which is that the only thing holding up the stock market is the AI trade.

0:27.3

You're somebody who looks at this all the time.

0:29.4

Is that true?

0:30.5

It's true and it's not true.

0:33.1

Okay.

0:33.4

Because like, for instance, if you measure it by net income contribution, it's pretty broad-based.

0:39.6

You know, the financials are growing earnings very strong this year.

0:43.8

So banks?

0:44.7

Yeah, banks.

0:45.8

Industrials are contributing a lot to earnings growth.

0:48.7

Of course, tech is.

0:50.4

And tech is a big contributor, but not 100% of tech spend is AI.

0:55.7

A lot of it is maintenance capics and expansion capics and, you know, the catch-up for spending that's been deferred because of COVID, et cetera.

1:03.5

So a lot of the capital expenditure that we're seeing, right, because we see that big tech alone, the Magnificent Seven, is going to spend something like $350 billion in capital expenditures this year.

1:14.4

A lot of people say, oh, it's $350 billion in AI spend.

1:18.2

But what you're just saying now is it's a little more nuanced than that.

1:20.6

Some of it's AI spend, but some of it is just keeping up what their operations are relying on.

1:26.0

Yeah.

1:26.1

I mean, but as a narrative, AI makes sense that it's a U.S. story because most of really, there's

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