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The Patrick Madrid Show

Is Abortion Ever Health Care?

The Patrick Madrid Show

Relevant Radio

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8587 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Mike, who identifies as a “pro-choice Catholic” medical student attempts to refute Patrick’s statement that “abortion is never necessary to save the life of the mother” by appealing to the tragic example of his own pregnant sister who died of an illness after refusing to abort her baby to save herself. A spirited yet ultimately fruitful debate ensued. Listen! 

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0:00.0

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0:05.4

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0:11.7

Let's go to Mike now in the Quad Cities, Illinois area. Good morning, Mike.

0:16.0

Good morning. Patrick. How are you doing today? I am loving life. Thank you.

0:19.4

I feel you that much. Hey, so this is kind of a controversial thing, and it's about the abortion thing you touched on just a few moments ago. Now, when I say what I have to say here, don't take this as sort of, I don't know how else to put it. So I'm just going to kind of ask it here. Okay. What is your, first off,

0:38.2

what is your stance between religion and science, medicinal science? What is my stance? I mean,

0:43.9

like, how do I approach them? How do you factor between the two? Like, what is something that is

0:50.4

necessary between medical, like emergency versus something that you feel is just God will.

0:56.1

Okay. Well, I approach science with a lot of gratitude because science is our way of learning about

1:02.0

the physical realities around us, and that's part of God's revelation is the physical realm.

1:08.0

So I'm very grateful to science and scientists, and I listen, and I seek to follow it.

1:13.4

With regard to revealed truth that comes to us outside of physical things, so divine revelation

1:20.5

in the Bible, for example, or Jesus, I accept that as well. I seek to follow God's revelation to us, both in the physical

1:29.6

as well as in the spiritual. Okay, awesome. And I actually really humbly appreciate that answer.

1:35.4

Not many people differentiate between the line of that. So my second question, to follow up,

1:42.9

what I have to say is, have you ever heard of Eisenmenger's syndrome? I don't up what I have to say is, is do you, have you ever heard

1:44.9

of Eisenmanger's syndrome?

1:46.1

I don't know that I have.

1:48.1

What is it?

1:49.1

Okay, so I, Eisenmanger's syndrome is essentially an increased blood pressure in the right,

1:54.1

I think the left side of the heart, that's the part of the heart that has blue blood.

2:00.0

And it causes very, very serious, serious complications during pregnancy.

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