As our country continues to roil from all the turmoil, we are joined today by people who can explain everything from the basic questions, the U.S. Constitution, all the way up to the policies that are being crafted right this very minute.

And because they don't invite me to their lunch where they actually talk about these things, we'll bring them here into the podcast studio and get into all of it.

This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.

Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.

I'm Michael Knowles.

Not just joined by our usual senator, but by a second senator as well, Senator Mike Lee.

Gentlemen, I am not going to tell you how deeply offended

I am that I was not invited to your Senate lunch. But because we're all here together, perhaps

you can fill me in on what's been happening. First of all, we'd love to have you at our lunch.

Just get elected to the Senate. We'll welcome you with open-off. Just that small issue first. Okay.

All right. You'd fit in well. And you're California, and I'm sure Diane Feinstein is looking over her shoulder and sees you approaching rapidly.

I appreciate the support senator, and I'm sure it's just a matter of a few days.

California has been looking and searching for years for a constitutional conservative.

You fit the bill.

So I understand this was a

pretty rowdy, interesting lunch. Take us behind the scenes. What happened? We talked about a number

of things, including the need to allow each senator to introduce amendments and have those

amendments voted on. Okay. You know, when we bring up a piece of legislation,

it's never supposed to be the case that you bring a piece of legislation to the

Senate floor and then that is the beginning and the end. That then would

represent a simple binary choice, all in or all out, all good or all bad.

The way the Senate was formed is such that every member is supposed to have access to unlimited

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