Hi, this is Mark Kermode. Thanks, Dan, I'm doing this Kermode on film podcast, or indeed watching us on the YouTube channel.

We are here with Jack Howard, upstairs at the Sun Pub on Drury Lane, which has become our home away from home. It has, yeah, yeah, we've become a staple of this pub. I feel like we should get a plaque at some point, actually. It's a great pub if you're in London, I recommend a visit. Today we're going to be talking about the 28 days, weeks, months, years, films.

Spoilers, all spoilers.

So if you haven't seen those films, don't watch or listen to this.

Or do, I don't mind.

Mark, why do you think we've continued to come back to zombie movies over and over again?

Why is that a genre that we seem to kind of return to?

Well, there's two things to say.

The first one is that, of course, technically, the 28 days, months, weeks later movies are zombie movies.

They're infected. They're not, they're not zombie. I mean, they are, movies. They're infected.

They're infected.

They're not zombie movies.

I mean, they are zombie movies.

They're using the tropes.

They're using the tropes.

And I remember actually when 28 days later came out, when the first film came out,

there was a little slew of zombie movies then because I did a little featurette for film four

going, why are zombies everywhere? And, you know, and the sort of, the reason that's generally

given is that there are certain, uh, iconic horror characters, horror tropes that work because

they, they say something about the period in which

they're set. So, for example, if you look at the George Romero zombie movies, the dead movies,

it's possible to say that each one of those films is about a different thing. So,

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