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Slash Friends.

It's not one piece of content that we look at and say, oh, that really commenced a bunch of people

if something that wasn't true. It's that it contributes to a general feeling that nothing can be trusted

and that it's all kind of bullshit and that like all politics is just whatever lie you can get

away with and that it's not really about discussing real issues but is instead just like, you know,

how do you sling mode most effectively and therefore I'm just not interested and it causes that

cohort that you're not turned in to grow because they just view this as some kind of dirty game.

I'm John Favreaux. Welcome to Offline.

Hey everyone, my guest this week is Jason Goldman, former Chief Digital Officer in the Obama

White House who is at Twitter and Google before that. The 2024 campaign is here and with it has

come a technological breakthrough that everyone seems to be obsessing over, artificial intelligence.

Axios has already dubbed 2024 the AI election. Following President Biden's re-election announcement,

the RNC ran an ad of an apocalyptic future made entirely of AI images.

Ron DeSantis is running ad showing AI images of Donald Trump kissing Dr. Fauci.

And that's just the stuff we know about with over a year left until Election Day.

Concerning? Yes. Convincing? To be determined. The truth is deep fake images and audio are only a small

fraction of what AI could mean for politics. It also offers new ways for campaigns to contact voters,

message tests and fundraise, expensive labor intensive pursuits that make up the backbone of every

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