When you see scientists trying to convey messages, it just is not often heard.

Absolutely. And then the media is like, oh, he's cute. And then it's like, wait, that was not, what? That was not the message. Yes. Not the point. We got to address the

suburban women problem because it's real. Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast for

red, wine, and blue. Hi, everyone. Thanks for listening. I'm Rachel Vindman. I'm Jasmine Clark. I'm Amanda Weinstein.

And you're listening to The Suburban Women Problem. Thanks for joining us. It's been a few weeks since we've recorded the pod.

So we are very excited to be back together again for season two. The bands back together, guys.

Today we're going to talk to Taslin

Magnuson, a mom in Wisconsin who's been fighting back against book banning. And after that,

we will have my conversation with Soledadad O'Brien, who is an exceedingly lovely woman who

really wants to promote and help other women. And I just,

I can't sing her praises enough in that regard because it's, there's too few people like that,

I think, in the world today. So I'm happy to highlight her. And before we get to all that,

Amanda, Jasmine, it's so great to see you again. How were your holidays?

Good to see you guys. Good to see y'all. Okay, well, my holidays were okay. They were pretty good,

all things considered. Unfortunately, like many across the country, we did experience COVID in our home. So it made for some interesting

holidays, but we all did our part. We quarantined. We isolated. And then when we got out of

isolation, we went on a nice vacation to the West Coast. And that was really fun. We got a chance to

hang out in the sun,

even though it was actually kind of cold. We're kind of trying to switch to more experiences over

gifts. I love that. Now that my kids are getting older. And so this was our first year really,

you know, kind of substituting gift opening for traveling.

And actually it works well since you have your PhD in microbiology, you probably understand the CDC's

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