Hey there, folks.

I want to continue my conversation with Irving Roth.

He experienced the Holocaust.

He experienced Auschwitz.

We're talking about it right now.

There's a film out called Never Again in which he's featured. It's mind-boggling to

me, Irving, to talk to you about this. You seem like a very youthful 91, and you're talking

about things that most of us cannot even dream about. You remember them vividly, it seems to me.

You describe at age 14 and a half being sent off to hard labor from Auschwitz.

Did you know that your grandparents and your aunts and uncles and others in your family

who had been separated from you that they had been murdered?

Did you know that?

Yes, because there were people there who were involved in the murder, both the cleanup process,

which was done by prisoners, mostly Jewish young prisoners, whose job it does well go into the

gas chamber, take the bodies, put them on an elevator, take

him one flight up and burn the bodies. It was called Special Command, or Zonder Commando, whose

job it was that. And of course, every three months, they would change those people because they

didn't want anybody to know, I suppose. And so they too were in danger. So we knew. There's no question about...

How did you make sense of this at the time? Because it's so evil that I just cannot imagine knowing that this is going on. Was it something that the whole thing happened

slowly and you became more and more used to this to this evil around you?

It was really evil, as you say, but it was an evil genius in a way. If you want to get rid of

huge number of people, you're talking the total Jewish population of Europe, there was many

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