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IRS plans to share immigrant tax data with Homeland Security. What will that mean?

Here & Now Anytime

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🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The Treasury Department has agreed to share tax data from immigrants living in the United States without legal status with the Department of Homeland Security. Former Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Danny Werfel explains the implications. And, layoffs at the Food and Drug Administration are expected to reduce the workforce by 20%. Susan Mayne, former director of the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition at the Food and Drug Administration, talks about what those cuts could mean for food safety. Then, Shawnee Baker got a call that her adult daughter, Baylie, had been involved in an accident and was in critical condition. But because Baylie had not designated Baker as her health care proxy, Baker had no say in her daughter's care. Now, Baker is advocating for other parents to take an active role in their adult children's health.

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0:00.0

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0:09.2

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0:17.0

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0:21.7

When you cut IRS resources, you're not cutting taxes.

0:26.0

We're just reducing the ability of the IRS to collect the taxes that have been enacted.

0:31.2

The revolving door at the Internal Revenue Service keeps spinning.

0:35.8

Another IRS chief quits after the agency agrees to share tax data of immigrants without legal status.

0:48.0

It's Wednesday, April 9th, and this is Here and Now Anytime from NPR and WBUR Boston.

0:55.0

I'm Shiko Theuri in for Chris Bentley.

1:00.1

Today on the show, the former Food and Safety Director at the FDA is concerned cuts to the agency could decay the food safety system.

1:09.0

Also, one mother urges parents to become the health care proxy for

1:12.7

their adult children. My heart broke to think of how many families wouldn't be able to navigate

1:17.7

the system the way we did. But first, the acting head of the IRS, Melanie Krause, is resigning.

1:25.4

The Washington Post reports she was blindsided by an agreement

1:29.0

between the Treasury Department and Homeland Security. The deal allows the IRS to share tax

1:34.9

data of some immigrants without legal status. The agreement was revealed this week in a court filing

1:40.6

as part of a lawsuit brought by immigrant rights groups to prevent this from happening.

1:45.4

A spokesperson from the Department of Homeland Security defended the move, saying, quote,

1:50.1

the government is finally doing what it should have all along, sharing information across the federal

1:55.3

government to solve problems, end quote. Krause, who is resigning, had replaced another interim IRS chief, Doug O'Donnell, who left out of frustration over the same issue. And O'Donnell succeeded Danny Werfel, a Biden appointee who was let go by President Trump. Here's his conversation with Robin Young.

2:15.2

So, Danny, what were your thoughts when you heard that the IRS had struck this information sharing deal with ICE?

2:21.1

Well, my first thought is the question of whether this is a legally allowable sharing of information.

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