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The Breakdown

IRS Forks Up New Tax Guidance / DevCon Debates / Senate Pressures Libra

The Breakdown

Blockworks

Investing, Business

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The IRS dropped quite the surprise today: their first new tax guidance since 2014. Unfortunately, it seems to indicate that chains forking and airdropping users coins (whether they want them or not) creates a taxable event. Meanwhile, DevCon5 is cruising along in Osaka, complete with Ethereum scaling debates, the imminent launch of Multi-Collateral DAI, and the announcement of a new, open version of Libra (although it's not exactly clear why people are excited about this). Lastly, the real Libra faced some headwinds as US Senators put pressure on Visa, Mastercard and Stripe to follow suit with PayPal and leave the Libra Association.  Watch: https://www.youtube.com/nathanielwhittemorecrypto

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to another Crypto Daily 3 at 3.

0:03.0

What's going on, guys? It is Wednesday, October 9th.

0:07.0

And we are flying through a bunch of different issues today.

0:11.0

So first of all, we're going to be talking some new guidance from the IRS on cryptocurrency reporting,

0:18.0

particularly with regard to forks.

0:20.0

A lot of people kind of nervous about this one.

0:23.9

Second, we're going to be popping over to Osaka to hear a couple pieces of news from DevCon,

0:30.3

multi-collateral dye is coming, a new Open Libra project that has a bunch of people kind of

0:37.0

yammering. So we'll be looking at that. And then third, we're going to talk about the regular Libra project that has a bunch of people kind of yamoring. So we'll be looking at that.

0:38.9

And then third, we're going to talk about the regular Libra. And specifically, the latest

0:42.9

round of challenges it faces, including senators, putting pressure on companies like Visa and MasterCard

0:48.8

to withdraw from the Libra Association. But let's dive in on the IRS first. So this cryptocurrency guidance was not

0:56.4

expected. It's the first time we've heard from them since 2014, as you can see here from

0:59.9

at Crypto Tax Girl, who's a great follow in general for this whole side of the market.

1:05.7

And so what was going on? Well, Peter Van Valkenberg from Coin Center sums it up like this. He says,

1:11.6

new IRS guidance is like, quote, owing income tax when someone buries a gold bar on your property

1:16.5

and doesn't tell you about it. So what does that mean specifically? The bad, as they say here,

1:22.4

any fork with new coins, for example, Bitcoin Cash or Ethereum Classic will create an income event for taxpayers.

1:29.2

So this is their summation. The new guidance suggests that a taxpayer will have a taxable income

1:34.1

the moment that new coins from a hard fork are recorded on the newly forked blockchain

1:37.7

and that the taxpayer has dominion and control over the cryptocurrency so that he or she can

1:42.4

transfer cell exchange or otherwise disposed.

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