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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, host of FP Live and Foreign Policy's Editor-in-Chief. Today we wanted to share a bonus episode with you. Our friends at the Irregular Warfare

Institute have a biweekly podcast that we think you might like. It's called the Irregular Warfare

podcast, and each episode features an in-depth conversation with military practitioners and policy makers.

So here's their episode.

It's called deterrence through asymmetry,

preparing for conflict in the Taiwan Strait.

Take a listen.

To really have strategic ambiguity, have tea. in other words, for China to believe that we could come to the aid of Taiwan in the event that China decides they're seizing it by force, there's not strong enough deterrence.

Deterance did not work in Ukraine.

That's created a war that certainly is creating unbelievable human destruction

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