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“Irregular Warfare & Intelligence” - with IWC Director Dennis Walters

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Education, History, News

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary Dr. Dennis Walters (LinkedIn; Website) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the Irregular Warfare Center and its ties to intelligence. Dennis is the current Acting Director of the IWC.  What You’ll Learn Intelligence The need for an Irregular Warfare Center The Irregular Warfare Center’s mission  What role intelligence plays in irregular war Creating unique solutions for unique situations  How do intelligence and Special Operations blend together?  Reflections Education as a strategic tool Creative problem solving And much, much more … Episode Notes This week on SpyCast, the IWC’s Acting Director Dr. Dennis Walters joins Andrew in a conversation about all thing's irregular warfare. What is irregular warfare, and how does it differ from conventional warfare? What is the mission of the IW Center, and what tools and tactics do they employ to accomplish this? Tune in to find out.  And…  Want to keep your enemies at bay, try an irregular approach – throw a “Scorpion Bomb” at them: yes, it is literally a glass jar filled with scorpions. The tactic was resurrected by ISIS.  Guest Bio  Dr. Dennis Walters is the acting Director of the Irregular Warfare Center. He served in the United States Army for 26 years, with time spent in the Army Intelligence Corps and in command of a Special Forces Operations Detachment in the Balkans. Upon his retirement from the Army, Dennis worked to build a network of irregular warfare experts that would culminate in the Department of Defense Regional Defense Fellowship Program. He has also instructed college courses on irregular warfare at the National Defense University and Regent University. He speaks fluent Russian. Quotes of the Week "It varies based on region, based on country, based on culture. And that's the part that we have not done well on the U.S. side, really factoring in all of those social implications of how you structure programs to make a country more stable, more resilient, more leaning towards the ideals that support a global community. That's the part that I think that we were missing in some cases." – Dr. Dennis Walters. Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023) “The Third Option” – US Covert Action with Loch Johnson, Part 1 (2022) “The Third Option” – US Covert Action with Loch Johnson, Part 2 (2022) Al Qaeda, DOD & the 9/11 Commission with Bonnie Jenkins and Alexis Albion (2022) Afghanistan, the Mujahedeen, Al Qaeda – My Time at CIA and State with Diana Bolsinger (2021) *Beginner Resources* Lessons from the Ukraine Conflict on Conventional War, ABC News (2022) [4:24 video] What is Hybrid Warfare? GeoVane (2019) [3:57 video] Maximizing the Potential of American Irregular War, C. Cleveland et al.,The Hill (2023) [op-ed] Irregular Warfare, D.Safire, New York Times (2008)

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I don't need that kind of money. I don't need that. It's very cheap to work in the realm of ideas, and that's my corner of the realm is ideas.

1:29.0

So that's what I'm bringing to this. We're going to let that industrial complex keep churning out the planes and the tanks and all of that because it's important, and it makes the people that like it happy.

1:42.0

So we'll let them keep doing that, but while they're doing that, we're also going to work this little insurgency on the other side to convince people that there's other ways to deal with these irregular problems globally.

1:55.0

Dennis Walters enlisted in the US Army in 1983, and was selected as one of the original members of a reactivated Ranger battalion.

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He served in the 82nd Airborne Division in the first armored division before being commissioned into the Army Intelligence Corps.

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He went on to pass the Special Forces Qualification course and speaks fluent Russian. In 2009, he retired from the Army and began building a global network of irregular warfare professionals for the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations.

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Work, he continues to this day as the Acting Director of the recently set up Irregular Warfare Center.

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In this episode, Andrew and Dennis discuss, if regular warfare is, well, regular, what is Irregular Warfare? What role does intelligence play in its execution? What role does it play in keeping the country safe?

2:58.0

How do intelligence and special operations blend together? And how does Dennis' experience feed into his role?

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3:23.0

Can you just tell us a little bit more about the Irregular Warfare Center?

3:31.0

Absolutely, Andrew. Thank you for inviting me first. This was quite an opportunity for us to come out and introduce ourselves and sort of tell the world about what we do and what we're going to do and what the center is.

3:45.0

And it's interesting that when, you know, almost every time I start to speak about the center, everyone assumes that we're new.

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And in some respects, we are actually new. But in other respects, we've been doing this for over a decade. And so that's where I kind of like to start is sort of on the foundation of the underpinning of the center itself and where we came from.

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