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Hacks On Tap

Irrational exuberance (with Steve Israel)

Hacks On Tap

David Axelrod & Mike Murphy

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.87.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In our final episode of the month, Axe and Heilemann were joined by frequent Hack, former congressman, and author Steve Israel. The Hacks dig into the vote to release the Epstein files, MTG’s latest pivot and what’s driving it, primary filing deadlines, winning issues, the midterms landscape, redistricting, and so much more. Plus, we get a sneak peek at Steve’s new book, The Einstein Conspiracy — based on true events, it follows two FBI agents in a high-stakes race against a ruthless undercover operative determined to abduct Albert Einstein, whom Hitler believes holds the key to building the atomic bomb. Have a great Thanksgiving, Hackeroos! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right. It's time for Black Friday at Dell Technologies. Save big on PCs like the Dell 16 plus featuring Intelcore ultra-processors.

0:07.3

Shop now at Dell.com. E.K. forward slash Black Friday. It's time for Black Friday at Dell

0:11.1

Friday at Dell Technologies. Say big on PCs like the Dell 16 plus featuring Intel core ultra-processes.

0:17.5

Shop now at Dell.com.E.K. forward slash Black Friday. Right now the internet feels

0:24.8

like it's changing, maybe faster than it ever has. We have huge companies going through these

0:30.2

big lawsuits about whether they get to keep being huge companies. We have companies big and small

0:35.1

making giant bets on AI, and we have an internet that just feels different to be on as a regular person.

0:41.2

This week on The Vergecast, we're talking about all of the ways that the internet has changed

0:45.0

and what we as users and people in the world might be able to do about it.

0:49.3

That's the Vergecast wherever you get podcasts.

0:59.9

Okay. wherever you get podcasts. Hey, pull up a chair.

1:02.1

It's Hacks on Tapp with David Axelrod, John Heilman, and Mike Murphy from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:09.4

Music from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:26.0

We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats,

1:28.5

all of his friends were Democrats.

1:33.6

You look at this Reid Hoffman, you look at Larry Summers, Bill Clinton.

1:36.0

They went to his island all the time, and many others.

1:36.9

You're all Democrats. So John Heilman, now we know the whole reason that Donald Trump was fighting so hard to keep the Epstein files out of public view was he didn't want to embarrass Democrats.

1:50.5

He didn't want to embarrass Larry Summers. Because that's the kind of guy he is.

1:52.9

He's very tight with Larry Summers and he was like, I don't want my friend Larry to be embarrassed this way.

1:56.9

So now that it's out, we can call for full disclosure.

2:00.5

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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