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With Tim O'Malley and Pete Sampson, I am Tim Priester, and it's Thursday, September 28th,

and this is Irish Illustrated Insider.

We are previewing Notre Dame versus Duke.

Notre Dame is a five and a half point favorite at Wallace Wade Stadium this weekend.

54 and a half is the over under.

Tim O'Malley, when, like when you, when you think of Duke, what's the first thing that

comes to mind with Mike Elko's the head coach?

Mike Elko, but Turnovers is the first thing that comes to mind because I didn't read your story.

But I actually, my answer, one of the questions I sent out to our Duke Insider at Devil's Den was when people think nationally of Duke, they think of Riley Leonard, except for everybody watching this game from our point of view, thinks of Mike Elko.

And Mike Elko's very sound, solid defense.

And whenever you say sound and solid, you don't think this. It also creates turnovers you say sound and solid you don't think this that also creates

turnovers usually sound and solid is a safe defense that makes you beat them up and you know makes

the drives count makes every play count they create turnovers and they're a sound defense he's a heck

of a coach heck of a defensive mind. I've not gone back and forth this

week. I don't want to give anything away. But the trap aspect of this game is long gone. Remember

this is the trap back in August? There is no trap in this game. This is just Notre Dame going in and

having to win a game against a good opponent. Yeah, it's, I mean, the turnovers are part of it, but also, I mean, a fourth down stop

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