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During the Troubles, Irish America played a controversial and sometimes misunderstood role in supporting the Republican cause.

At rallies across the United States, passionate speeches echo the hopes and frustrations of a diaspora, determined to make a difference.

Now, there's a line from one of those speeches, and depending on where you're listening to this,

it's going to strike you very differently.

And how you react to it cuts to the heart of today's discussion in this episode.

So let me play that for you now.

It is a beautiful land, this Emerald Isle, and it's your land, and it's my land.

Mine by heritage, yours by birth, and I want it back.

Now, depending on your perspective, you might hear those words as a heartfelt call for solidarity,

or dismiss them as misty-eyed Irish-American

sentimentality. Now, in this episode, I'm joined by Jamie Goldrick, the producer of the documentary,

Norade, Irish-America and the IRA, to discuss the contradictions at the heart of Irish-American

involvement in the troubles.

Our conversation raised uncomfortable and challenging questions about this part of our history.

While many in the Republic of Ireland were definitely uneasy with Irish-Americans getting involved in the conflict,

they were at the same time often content to ignore the conflict themselves. Meanwhile, Norade's

emergence in the US brought its own contradictions. It came at a time when America was

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