Before we begin today's show, I'd like to say a big thank you to today's castaway sponsor, TK. Max.

I'm so excited to be part of their give up clothes for good campaign, which raises funds to support

Cancer Research UK for children and young people. And you lovely listeners, you can get involved

too, because I know you've only been doing clearouts of your wardrobe over the last few months.

So just drop off a bag of your pre-loved quality clothes, accessories and homeware at any TK. Mac store.

Your items will then be sold in Cancer Research UK shops and all the money raised funds research into cancers affecting children and young people.

Not only that, but you'll also be giving your

pre-loved items a second life by diverting them from landfill. Win, win! Thank you, TK. Max, for sponsoring

this episode. Today, I'm joined by the incredible podcaster and entrepreneur Irene Ogbontian, host of TTIA Talks,

aka taller than your average.

Irene started the podcast back in 2015 as an inclusive space for the excluded girl.

She's had everyone from Maya Jama to FCA Twigs sharing their truths in order to encourage the younger generation with their own entrepreneurial journeys.

As well as leading inspiring conversations with industry leaders, Irene works on the inside, promoting diversity and inclusion as a consultant for leading brands.

On today's episode, we speak about how the Black Lives Matter movement has affected Irene,

and importantly, she shares some really powerful black podcasts, including the hilarious

receipts podcast, the prolific and silly podcast to Rennie Edo Lodge's book about race,

and the New York-based culture podcast, The Read with

Kid Fury and Crystal West. An episode not to be missed this week. Let's Castaway with Irene

Abontian. Irene, welcome to Castaway. Oh my God, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be

here. I'm so excited to have you on. First of all, how are you?

I'm good.

The last couple of weeks have been interesting and quite traumatic, but I think we're in a good space where we're opening conversations and we've been connecting with our peers.

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