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IRC: USAID Cuts are Deadly

Amanpour

CNN

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4.2929 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

The legal battle over the Trump administration's gutting of USAID began this week with a federal judge ruling against DOGE-initiated cuts. Though Elon Musk insists "no one has died as a result" of DOGE's actions, the reality on the ground is already painting a very different picture. Health workers in the developing world have said people are already dying from the cutoff. And a new study by the Center for Global Development says millions more could die within a year. International Rescue Committee chief David Miliband joins the show to discuss.  Also on today's show: Omar El Akkad, author, “One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This”; Carrie Besnette Hauser, President and CEO, Trust for Public Land  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

In places like Sudan, in places like Syria, we are unable to deliver services. We're having to close services.

0:15.0

As the legal battle over gutting USAID ramps up, we look at the human cost and the most vulnerable people

0:21.8

bearing the brunt. The head of the International Rescue Committee, David Miliband, joins me and...

0:27.1

I've spent the last year and a half watching evidence of the worst things human beings can do

0:33.1

to one another. One day, everyone will have always been against this. The acclaimed new book, a damning indictment of Western complacency amid the bloodshed of our modern wars.

0:44.5

Author Omar L. Akad joins me.

0:46.9

Also ahead, what can be done to save America's iconic green spaces as mass firings hit federal workers?

1:18.6

Walter Isaacson asks the president of the Trust for Public Land. Welcome to the program, everyone. I'm Christiana Manpur in London. From HIV to malnutrition to pandemic prevention, Afghanistan to Ethiopia to Serbia. The damage

1:26.6

from the Trump administration's gutting of USAID has been swift and extensive.

1:32.8

And this week, the legal battle got underway. A federal judge ruled against the world's richest man, Elon Musk and his dogees, saying the unilateral manner in which they slashed aid to the world's poorest is likely

1:46.8

to have violated the Constitution. On today's program, a reminder that there are real human

1:52.5

lives in the balance. Though Musk's insists no one has died as a result of the cuts, the reality

1:58.1

on the ground is already painting a very different picture.

2:01.5

Health workers in the developing world say people, adults and children are already dying from

2:07.1

the cutoff, and a new study by the Center for Global Development said millions more could

2:12.8

die within a year. David Miliband is head of the International Rescue Committee and he used to be the British

2:19.0

Foreign Minister. I started by asking him about the massive humanitarian catastrophe unleashed

2:24.8

on Gaza again. David Miliband, welcome back to the program.

2:28.9

Thanks ever so much, Christian. So we're talking at the end of a week in which the ceasefire in Gaza has been completely shattered

2:36.9

and Israel is talking more about returning to war unless the hostages are released.

2:41.9

But on the humanitarian front, hundreds of people are reported killed, including women and children.

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