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Iran Wants to Transform the Regional Order | Sina Toosi Interview

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🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Following Donald Trump’s now-rescinded threat to kill “a whole civilisation”, Aaron Bastani speaks to Middle East expert Sina Toosi about Tehran’s strategic goals.

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0:00.0

We are now over a month in the Iran War, and nobody really knows how this thing is going to play out.

0:08.0

One thing that is certain, however, is that the war itself has seismically changed the politics of Iran internally,

0:15.0

and in a plethora of ways, some of which are visible, others less so.

0:19.0

Earlier today, I spoke to Senatusi, a senior

0:22.3

fellow at the Centre for International Policy. I began by asking him what Donald Trump meant by his

0:27.3

threat to destroy Iranian civilization. It makes me think of, and this is probably not how Trump

0:33.9

is thinking about it, but like Samuel Huntington's thesis of clash of civilizations.

0:38.3

But at the root of that, there is amongst the, this class in America, among the ruling

0:45.6

class of America and among the foreign policy establishment and amongst American hardliners,

0:51.1

that this idea of, you know, they are supreme. They are, you know, it's a supremacist ideology. And they do

0:59.0

view things in these kind of racist terms. And that's long been the case. I mean, you know,

1:03.3

if you dig into the history of U.S. foreign policy, at roots, you know, there is an element of white

1:09.7

supremacy and, you know, uncompromising dominance

1:13.5

and hegemony over the world. So Trump is really just a most brazen, naked form of that, in my opinion.

1:19.8

Trump is someone who, you know, maybe American, you know, American foreign policy has long been

1:24.9

aggressive, you know, interfering in other parts of the world,

1:29.2

toppling governments, doing, you know, many of these things that he threatens, you know,

1:34.6

now and he's doing now. But the difference is Trump is just so much more explicit about it.

1:38.7

You know, whereas even, you know, the Bush administration or Paul Wolfowitz, Donald

1:44.0

Rumsfeld, Dick Chene cheney i mean they weren't

1:48.0

that different ultimately and their war on terror and their kind of you know what underpin that war

1:54.5

you know the kind of neo-conservative ideologues who justified that war people like bernard le. And, you know, at the root of that is this

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