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Stay Tuned with Preet

Iran, Russia, & Trump’s War Dilemma (with Ed Luce & Karim Sadjadpour)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

With Trump at the helm, U.S. foreign policy is in a perilous position. This week, Preet is joined by Iran expert Karim Sadjadpour to talk about the escalating war between Israel and Iran, and whether the U.S. will get directly involved. Then, Financial Times columnist and policy expert Ed Luce joins Preet to discuss his new book Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, America's Great Power Prophet. They talk about Brzezinski’s role in American history, Trump’s “real estate developer" foreign policy, and the current state of the U.S. on the world stage.   Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at [email protected], or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:06.0

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:08.4

There will be basically multipolar disorder.

0:13.0

There will be vacuums, power a pause a vacuum.

0:16.3

Different actors will rush into it.

0:18.1

So I would say Trump's foreign policy is not going well.

0:25.7

That's Ed Luce. He's the chief U.S. commentator at the Financial Times, where he has covered

0:31.5

U.S. and global politics for 30 years. Luce is out with a new book called Zbig, The Life of Zbig No Brzeinski, America's Great Power Profit.

0:42.0

We'll talk about this influential figure in American history and the state of the U.S. on the

0:46.8

world stage.

0:48.1

But first, in lieu of the typical Q&A, I am instead joined by Iran expert Karim Sadrupur to talk about Israel's recent strikes on Iran's military infrastructure and the escalating conflict that has ensued since.

1:01.0

Sadridpur is a policy analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

1:05.7

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