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Today we are going to revisit the international order, or what's left of it, and talk about

what's been going on since we were last there.

So that means Iran, Israel, Korea, NATO, Europe, America, Helen, Aaron, Chris, help.

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So to try and help us make sense of this all, we have got Helen Thompson. It's a pleasure

to welcome back Aaron Rapport. Chris Bickerton's here with us too. I thought we should probably

start with Iran, which may be the biggest part of this whole story. And Helen, correct me

if I'm wrong, but my memory, when we talked about

Obama's legacy and what we admired and didn't admire about the Obama administration and you

have mixed feelings about Obama's record, but the thing that you said you really did admire

was the Iran deal, what used to be called the Iran deal. So do you regret it's passing?

I don't know whether I regret it's passing, but I do know that I've changed my mind about,

not for the first time, because I recall that I gave that answer to you after you'd pressed me

the week, a few weeks before, and I'd said healthcare and then changed my mind to the nuclear deal,

and now I'm changing my mind again.

I think that one thing that is clear,

regardless of what one thinks about the content of it,

that it now is obvious that it was not something

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