Iran, Israel, and Trump

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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The conflict between Israel and Iran is revealing a deep divide within the MAGA universe over whether to get more involved or stay on the sidelines. This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Further reading: There’s a bitter clash on the right. It could determine whether Trump takes us to war. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Photo of Tucker Carlson and President Trump by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Today is day five of Israel and Iran trading deadly fire.
0:05.6	This afternoon, President Trump got on truth social to post some extraordinary threats aimed at Iran.
0:11.6	He called in all caps for Iran's unconditional surrender, then committed to not kill Iran's supreme leader for now, before adding, quote, our patience is
0:22.8	wearing thin. Earlier today, Trump had seemed much more optimistic, saying he was looking for
0:27.3	something better than a ceasefire.
0:31.3	Trump hasn't clarified whether the U.S. will get involved in this conflict. New reports
0:36.5	suggest that Israel wants American help in reaching Fordo.
0:40.3	This is a nuclear fuel enrichment plant built deep in a mountain that reportedly only American bombs and bombers can penetrate.
0:48.0	The thing holding Trump back?
0:50.3	A fight within his own MAGA movement over whether America should go to war again.
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