Tiff, I'm you.

Hey, it's actually Josh told you wife's phone for this.

How you doing, man?

Good.

Hey, man, Christos Anesti.

Alito Sanesti.

Um, yeah, just curious on your thoughts on this, man.

So, uh, you know, you've talked a good bit about, you know, the problem of ecumenism within orthodox circles and stuff.

I've actually called him before about some of that and always have good stuff to say.

Um, you, that is not me.

Uh, anyway, I was reading, uh, the classic, uh, Calistos-Wares book, the Orthodox Church.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I definitely believe I saw some like proto, ecumenist, strains of thought there.

A lot of stuff that almost seemed critical of our own history.

And I just, you know, when you have these old-timey Anglican converts to orthodoxy like that,

is that a common thing in those academic circles?

Unfortunately, yes, unfortunately it is.

And he wrote some pro-Skiddle's articles towards the end of his life before he passed away.

So he unfortunately drifted in a very bad direction.

There's some bad things in Orthodox way, has an apocatastasis universalist statement.

There's also a statement that's the Protestant PSA view, so he fell into PSA and said the

son was damned.

But yeah, and then even in that, he's the editor of that book, the Bible and the Fathers that follows the

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