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I had all the skin was burned off my face, and my left hand was, all the skin was burned off, and the bones were sticking out.

I mean, we kept saying our interest is, what's the identity of the bomber and who was the paymaster?

That's what we want to track.

Hey, fiasco listeners.

We are now halfway through our season on the Iran-Contra scandal, which feels like the perfect time to take a break from our regular episodes

and share something a little different.

It's a conversation with two reporters, Martha Honey and Tony Avergan, a husband and wife

team covered the Contra War in Central America.

In the mid-1980s, Martha and Tony were living in and reporting from Costa Rica.

Costa Rica, which is located just south of Nicaragua, was a peaceful country that had

abolished its army and was using the money on infrastructure and education.

For Martha and Tony, it was an ideal place to raise their kids, but it was also a good place

for a couple of reporters.

Although Costa Rica was nice and peaceful, there were wars going on in Nicaragua and El Salvador and Guatemala,

and Costa Rica was not in those wars, but close enough that we could report on them.

Except what we didn't realize at the time was that just about the time we relocated

there, the CIA was also in the process of tripling the size of its operations in Costa Rica.

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